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Luongo to Toronto. Maybe. What would it take?

Posted by Brendan Munro on May 1, 2012 at 2:45 AM

Let's armchair GM this summer's upcoming blockbuster trade between Vancouver and Toronto, shall we?


For all the success Luongo has had in Vancouver, I'm going to suggest his days here are done. He was given a chance to close out the deal and win a cup last spring. It didn't happen. This year, when his coach wanted to give his team the best possible chance to win against the LA Kings, he turned away from Luongo and played Cory Schneider.For his part, Luongo has taken the high road, saying that whether the Canucks choose to keep or trade him, he will be fine either way. The general consensus, however, is that Schneider is ready for prime-time and has earned the confidence of his coaches and teammates, which means that Luongo is expendable.


Whether or not he is moveable, however, is a different question. There are only so many teams who are able to absorb the balance of a 12 year, $64 Million contract. The short list of teams in need of a goalie who could possibly shoulder Luongo's contract include Tampa Bay, Columbus, and Toronto (also possibly New Jersey if Brodeur decided to call it quits after this season).


While Luongo has earned his share of detractors for his playoff performances in recent years, his numbers in the regular season are incredibly solid. His goals against average each year since coming to Vancouver has remained in the 2.30 to 2.60 range, while his save percentage has ranged between .913 and .928. Even more impressive has been his wins during the regular season. While it can be argued that this is largely a team statistic, bad teams simply don't have goalies that produce 30 win seasons year after year. In other words, Luongo knows how to get it done in the regular season, which is why he might be a perfect fit for Toronto.While I am hardly the first person to suggest this (the Toronto media nearly made a mess in their pants last week when the rumour leaked that Luongo would waive his not trade clause to join Leafs nation), I am going to analytically agree that acquiring him would make a lot of sense for the Leafs. The one thing that hasn't yet donned on the Leafs though is that it might actually cost the team something valuable to get him.


The typical fan/GM in Toronto would happily exchange picks and prospects for Luongo, and considering the albatross that is represented by his contract, that logic is understandable. However, the Canucks are in win-now mode and have little appetite for long-term development projects. If Luongo moves, which is likely, but far from certain, it will be in exchange for players that can help the Canucks win now. I'm sure that if Mike Gillis had his way, any trade talk would start with Jake Gardiner and a pick, or at minimum Mikhael Grabovski and the 5th overall pick, though Grabovski brings the kind skill-set that Vancouver already has in droves, so that move doesn't make sense. If both Luongo and Gardiner are wearing Leafs jerseys this fall, expect – at minimum – Joe Colborne and that 5th overall pick heading to Vancouver.


I know what you're thinking: that seems like a lot for a guy with Luongo's massive contract, but remember that Gillis knows that Brian Burke has get this team in the playoffs this year. There is no horizon beyond that if the Leafs fall short once again, so essentially the term on Luongo's deal really doesn't matter as much as it would to someone who expected to be at the helm for the long-haul.Will Brian Burke have the guts to pull the trigger on this deal and once again reshape the image of his franchise like he did in the Phil Kessel trade? We'll see.


What do you think? Is Luongo for Colborne and the 5th overall a fair deal for both teams? How about Luongo for Gardiner? Is there another deal to be made that both GM's could stomach? I'm happy to hear your suggestions.

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9 Comments

Reply Rosscoe
09:45 AM on May 01, 2012 
For Gillis this will be essentially a salary dump so he can use the $5.3M to acquire a solid veteran player who can contribute. He knows he won't get much for him.

For Burke he wouldn't give up a useful player for Luongo. The contract is a HUGE anchor that will weigh the Leafs down for years. So pretty good goalie with a really bad contract equals not worth much in compensation - Komosarek, Connolly or Lombardi plus maybe a middling prospect like D'Amigo - the 5th pick never.
Reply SlayerScott
10:40 AM on May 01, 2012 
I'm going to go in between you two. There's no way the Leafs are giving up Grabovski, Gardiner or the 5th overall pick. Similarly, there's no way Vancouver would salary dump Luongo for a package of similarly hideous contracts like Connolly, Komisarek or Lombardi. However a decent prospect like Carter Ashton, Nazem Kadri or Joe Colborne and a quality roster player like Luke Schenn, Tyler Bozak, Clarke MacArthur or Nikolai Kulemin - a combination of 3 of those players might interest Vancouver.


I gotta say though I hope the Leafs don't get Luongo. That's mostly personal bias, I've never liked him and always though his numbers were overblown by the volume of shots in Florida and the quality of D in Vancouver. He still chokes when the chips are down. That's what would happen if he came to TO. The Leafs would make the playoffs and then choke. Without Luongo, the Leafs miss the playoffs. Good is the enemy of great and everyone flipped out too much over the Leafs lousy finish. Sure, it made for lousy Hockey to watch but the Leafs had the youngest average age in the NHL and the farm team is tearing up the AHL playoffs. The sky is not falling - the rebuild should continue for another 2 or 3 years if Toronto wants to actually contend for the Stanley Cup. But no, the Leafs were in first place after a month and long term patience went out the window.

Look at the LA Kings. They missed the playoffs from 2002-2009. During that time they drafted Kopitar and Doughty, stockpiled a pile of goaltending prospects and human sacrficed them in net until Jonathan Quick turned out to be a superstar and built the team from within and eventually made some big moves. Chicago from 1997-2007 drafted and developed Duncan Keith, Brent Seabrook, Patrick Kane and Jonathan Toews. Yes, the Leafs have been bad for a long time, but the squandering of draft picks has put them further back than they should be. A few more years of building from within will see the Leafs in contention - not just content to make the playoffs on the back of an aging star goalie.
Reply Landon Ewaniuk
01:31 PM on May 01, 2012 
I believe the Tampa Bay Lightning are the front- runner in this situation. Brett Connolly would be part of the package....
Reply Brendan Munro
02:41 PM on May 01, 2012 
SlayerScott, I think you bring up a good point about balance. If a deal happens, it has to work for both teams. I still think Toronto would be vastly improved with Luongo, but Vancouver is probably going to ask for legitimate value in return. At minimum at top prospect and a solid roster player, as you suggest.
SlayerScott says...
I'm going to go in between you two. There's no way the Leafs are giving up Grabovski, Gardiner or the 5th overall pick. Similarly, there's no way Vancouver would salary dump Luongo for a package of similarly hideous contracts like Connolly, Komisarek or Lombardi. However a decent prospect like Carter Ashton, Nazem Kadri or Joe Colborne and a quality roster player like Luke Schenn, Tyler Bozak, Clarke MacArthur or Nikolai Kulemin - a combination of 3 of those players might interest Vancouver.


I gotta say though I hope the Leafs don't get Luongo. That's mostly personal bias, I've never liked him and always though his numbers were overblown by the volume of shots in Florida and the quality of D in Vancouver. He still chokes when the chips are down. That's what would happen if he came to TO. The Leafs would make the playoffs and then choke. Without Luongo, the Leafs miss the playoffs. Good is the enemy of great and everyone flipped out too much over the Leafs lousy finish. Sure, it made for lousy Hockey to watch but the Leafs had the youngest average age in the NHL and the farm team is tearing up the AHL playoffs. The sky is not falling - the rebuild should continue for another 2 or 3 years if Toronto wants to actually contend for the Stanley Cup. But no, the Leafs were in first place after a month and long term patience went out the window.

Look at the LA Kings. They missed the playoffs from 2002-2009. During that time they drafted Kopitar and Doughty, stockpiled a pile of goaltending prospects and human sacrficed them in net until Jonathan Quick turned out to be a superstar and built the team from within and eventually made some big moves. Chicago from 1997-2007 drafted and developed Duncan Keith, Brent Seabrook, Patrick Kane and Jonathan Toews. Yes, the Leafs have been bad for a long time, but the squandering of draft picks has put them further back than they should be. A few more years of building from within will see the Leafs in contention - not just content to make the playoffs on the back of an aging star goalie.
Reply Brendan Munro
02:42 PM on May 01, 2012 
Brendan Munro says...
SlayerScott, I think you bring up a good point about balance. If a deal happens, it has to work for both teams. I still think Toronto would be vastly improved with Luongo, but Vancouver is probably going to ask for legitimate value in return. At minimum at top prospect and a solid roster player, as you suggest.
Reply Aaron
09:22 PM on May 24, 2012 
You need to stop gulping down the magic mushooms out there my friend! There ain't a chance in hell you're getting ANYTHING of note for that contract!!!! Give your head a shake man!!
Reply Aaron
09:24 PM on May 24, 2012 
......and get yourself to a 12 step meeting!!!!
Reply Brendan Munro
10:15 PM on May 24, 2012 
Thanks for the pessimistic reply. The question the article poses at the end asks for suggestions. Maybe I'm way off base. What do you think Vancouver could realistically get for Luongo from Toronto or elsewhere?

Aaron says...
You need to stop gulping down the magic mushooms out there my friend! There ain't a chance in hell you're getting ANYTHING of note for that contract!!!! Give your head a shake man!!
Reply Nathan
01:32 PM on June 23, 2012 
I don't think Vancouver would want those kinds of assets. You said it yourself, they're looking for players to make an impact right now. I'm sure grabovski and gardiner are on that list but there is no way they are getting Morgan Rielly. I think Vancouver would prefer players like Clarke MacArthur, Nikolai Kulemin, Luke Schenn, Tyler Bozak or even players like Jay Rosehill, Korbinian Holzer, Ben Scrivens, etc.

Including a salary dump may also be an idea for Toronto. So far it's between Komisarek, Connolly, Armstrong, and Lombardi. Personally If I had to lose 1 it would be Komisarek. Huge contract and no worth on the blue line. I could survive with Connolly, Lombardi, and Armstrong on the team for another year.

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